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== Participants ==
== Participants ==


TBD
* Anna Petrasova
* Helena Mitasova
* Helmut Kudrnovsky
* Huidae Cho
* Linda Karlovska
* Markus Neteler
* Martin Landa
* Michael Barton
* Nicklas Larsson
* Paulo van Breugel
* Vaclav Petras
* Vero Andreo


== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
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The proposed topics to be discussed are:
The proposed topics to be discussed are:
* Welcome new PSC members! :)
* Welcome new PSC members! :)
* PSC Elections 2024 debriefing
* [[PSC Election 2024]] debriefing
* Action points from previous meeting: [[PSC_Meeting_2024-08-09]]
* Procedure for switching from old to new PSC
** Documentation of github teams
** update https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PSC#Members
** update https://grass.osgeo.org/about/team/, we need portrait photos
* Release 8.4.1 (Anticipated release date was September 18 - [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/milestones GitHub Milestones])
* Redbubble access and restart of the setup procedure
* Action points from the previous meeting: [[PSC_Meeting_2024-08-09]]
** Documentation of GitHub teams
** RFCs about releases
** RFCs about releases
* New RFC about C/C++ standards
* New [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/4566 RFC about C/C++ standards]
* Upcoming events
* NumFOCUS
* Upcoming events:
** AGU
** AGU
** FOSS4G Brazil:  
** FOSS4G Brazil:  
*** Please check GRASS [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GF2SDBXfEvd3WwvJCVa7ssfLtXnj08w8qF-PUpqwNTg/edit#slide=id.ge8d9e7545e_0_6 slide] for OSGeo AGM
*** Please check GRASS [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GF2SDBXfEvd3WwvJCVa7ssfLtXnj08w8qF-PUpqwNTg/edit#slide=id.ge8d9e7545e_0_6 slide] for OSGeo [https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2024 AGM]
** Anyone planning on attending FOSDEM (Feb 2025) or FOSS Backstage (Mar 2025)?
** Anyone planning on attending [https://fosdem.org/2025/ FOSDEM] (1+2 Feb 2025) or [https://25.foss-backstage.de/ FOSS Backstage] (10-11 Mar 2025)?
* Documentation updates
* Documentation updates
* Publer Business subscription?
* Publer Business subscription?
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** https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2024-October/013570.html
** https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2024-October/013570.html
* News post for GRASS website
* News post for GRASS website
* ... add other topics here...
* Discourse transition - close grass-dev mailing list
* Labels or projects for "funding needed", "funded work", "funded by..." etc. ([https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/labels?q=fund OSGeo/gdal], [https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/labels?q=fund OSGeo/PROJ])
* Consider writing a laudation for Roger Bivand


== Minutes ==
== Minutes ==


TBD
* New PSC members welcoming!
 
* PSC debriefing:
** For the next elections, we all agree that we should ''remove the reflection period'' and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provide their statements.
** {{done}} AP will update pictures on the website, the PSC list on the wiki was already updated.
** Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections
 
* Release 8.4.1 status:
** see https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A8.4.1
** '''Action:''' All, get the open issues to a minimum, i.e., review, merge, close, or move to 8.4.2 or 8.5
** db.in.ogr changes to docs about setting autodetect to import csv files → {{done}} MB will provide the sentence to modify (https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/4674)
** HC open PRs
** r.univar bug #4284
** '''Action:''' MN proposes to sit together with VP while doing the release and check if the procedure is in good shape (as time permits)
 
* Milestones vs backport labels:
** Milestone: We want to have it in the given version
** Backport label: Needs to be backported regardless of the milestone (milestone may target micro release or future release)
 
* Redbubble:
** Still not open to the public.
** '''Action:''' VP (?) will contact support and ask what’s happening.
** We are signed up there with grass.devteam account
** someone is using GRASS logo already, see: https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/GRASS-Open-Source-GIS-by-lawlessdesign/68521086.0S66D (that was also part of the original motivation to create the shop)
 
* Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
** GDAL, GeoPandas, and Numpy use it
** Industry partners need an invoice, OSGeo is not willing to handle that
** NumFocus can apply to US funding
** Deadline for application?
** Cost: 15% from donations
** Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
** We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
** '''Action:''' LK suggests to create a list of industry partners. Volunteers??
** '''Action:''' AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application
 
* GSoC
** Google sent money for mentors, OSGeo asked mentors what they we wanted to do
** GRASS mentor’s money —> goes to GRASS project but sits with OSGeo
 
* Upcoming events:
** AGU: talks accepted
** FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
** FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. '''Action:''' PVB will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
** FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/
 
* Documentation - moving to md
** Merge: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3849
** Finish & merge docs: script to convert HTML manual pages to markdown #4620
** Convert Addons documentation to Markdown → MN has fixed HTML and tested, 95% ready
** Remove HTML-related rules from the build system and HTML files
** '''Action:''' Waiting for VP and MN review to merge 3849 and move on
** Do we create md docs already for new tools?? Yes
** How to save the history of html files once they are removed?
*** https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/4620#issuecomment-2465213180
 
* Publer:
** Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - '''Motion passed'''
** '''Action:''' VP will contact OSGeo about the money
** '''Action:''' VA will ping PVB and create a shared doc to track posts, draft ideas, etc.
 
* Budget:
** We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot
** {{done}} VA creates the calendar event
** '''Action:''' VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s
** Deadline to submit is Dec 23, 2024
 
* Discourse:
** '''Action:''' AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
** We all agree to move grass-user and grass-psc to discourse too
** In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)
 
* RFC about standards
** {{done}} NL sends out the motion
 
* Note for Roger:
** Volunteers??
[[Category:PSC]]

Revision as of 14:01, 13 November 2024

Participants

  • Anna Petrasova
  • Helena Mitasova
  • Helmut Kudrnovsky
  • Huidae Cho
  • Linda Karlovska
  • Markus Neteler
  • Martin Landa
  • Michael Barton
  • Nicklas Larsson
  • Paulo van Breugel
  • Vaclav Petras
  • Vero Andreo

Agenda

The proposed topics to be discussed are:

Minutes

  • New PSC members welcoming!
  • PSC debriefing:
    • For the next elections, we all agree that we should remove the reflection period and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provide their statements.
    • √ AP will update pictures on the website, the PSC list on the wiki was already updated.
    • Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections
  • Milestones vs backport labels:
    • Milestone: We want to have it in the given version
    • Backport label: Needs to be backported regardless of the milestone (milestone may target micro release or future release)
  • Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
    • GDAL, GeoPandas, and Numpy use it
    • Industry partners need an invoice, OSGeo is not willing to handle that
    • NumFocus can apply to US funding
    • Deadline for application?
    • Cost: 15% from donations
    • Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
    • We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
    • Action: LK suggests to create a list of industry partners. Volunteers??
    • Action: AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application
  • GSoC
    • Google sent money for mentors, OSGeo asked mentors what they we wanted to do
    • GRASS mentor’s money —> goes to GRASS project but sits with OSGeo
  • Upcoming events:
    • AGU: talks accepted
    • FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
    • FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. Action: PVB will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
    • FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/
  • Documentation - moving to md
  • Publer:
    • Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - Motion passed
    • Action: VP will contact OSGeo about the money
    • Action: VA will ping PVB and create a shared doc to track posts, draft ideas, etc.
  • Budget:
    • We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot
    • √ VA creates the calendar event
    • Action: VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s
    • Deadline to submit is Dec 23, 2024
  • Discourse:
    • Action: AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
    • We all agree to move grass-user and grass-psc to discourse too
    • In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)
  • RFC about standards
    • √ NL sends out the motion
  • Note for Roger:
    • Volunteers??
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