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| '''''HISTORIC DOCUMENT of the process of how this team came into existence. Operation of the PSC is managed [[PSC|here]].'''''
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| This page discusses the need for a GRASS Project Steering Commitee (PSC), preferably at a low level of complication.
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| ==1st Letter to GRASS mailing lists==
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| <small><pre>
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| 02/10/2006 06:15 PM
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| Dear GRASS community,
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| in the Chicago meeting the GRASS project was suggested to
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| as one of the initial OSGeo foundation projects.
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| So far I only received positive feedback on the idea of
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| moving GRASS more formally to the foundation (while the
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| individual authors are keeping their copyright which is
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| a major difference to the Apache Foundation.)
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| A couple of things will have to be sorted out in the
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| coming months to make GRASS's membership possible (below
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| list is inspired by Frank's mail to the GRASS project):
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| o We will need to form a "GRASS Project Steering Committee"
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| (PSC). Foundation projects need a formalized management
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| which may be desired in any case. I would be glad to
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| receive suggestions of names for this committee. For
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| inspiration, please look at the MapServer Technical
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| Steering Committee as described here:
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| http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-1
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| o One benefit of the foundation is some degree of legal
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| support and protection for the project. The flip side of that
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| is that the foundation needs to ensure some degree of
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| rigor and process in how code comes into the project. One
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| part of that is getting committers to sign a legal agreement
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| indicating that they agree that changes they commit will
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| be under the license of GRASS (GPL) and that they have
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| the right to submit the code (they wrote it, it is not
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| patented, have permission from their employer, etc).
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| o We will have to review the existing code base (which is
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| huge - more than 500000 lines of source code in GRASS 6).
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| Luckily a major code review was already done for GRASS 5.
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| Also the "Debianization" process was performed for GRASS
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| 5 and GRASS 6.
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| o It is suggested to move the support infrastructure for GRASS
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| to new foundation systems. Stuff like CVS (maybe SVN then),
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| and bugtracker and mailing lists. The web site will also
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| likely appear under a foundation subdomain (ie. grass.osgeo.org)
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| with hopefully the known mirror site structure as before
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| with grass.itc.it, grass.ibiblio.org etc as principal mirror
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| sites. If so, the web site will be migrated into a contents
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| management system (CMS) in a harmonized "foundation style".
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| A CMS will hopefully solve the problem to get more people
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| involved in the Web site contents management.
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| o We hope to establish options to enable sponorship for the
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| foundation - be as direct funding or for selected foundation
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| projects. Details have to be worked out. My suggestion is to
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| create national tax-exempt organizations (such as the
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| German GRASS Anwender-Vereinigung e.V. which already exists)
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| which may offer to receive donations.
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| o For now we should think about nominating people with
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| recognized contribution to the GRASS project, to
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| free data, to whatever deems significant. A small paragraph
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| describing why the candidate is proposed as member to
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| the foundation is needed as well. This will be announced
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| more formally soon. Please see ongoing discussions here:
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| http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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| (Nearly) nothing is set in stone yet.
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| More details will follow, a couple of official documents
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| are being currently prepared
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| Your feedback is welcome.
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| Markus
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| </pre></small>
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| ______
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| ==2nd Letter to GRASS mailing lists==
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| <small><pre>
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| 02/11/2006 12:16 AM
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| Dear all,
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| while I already received two suggestions for a GRASS
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| Project Steering Committee (PSC), I suggest to post the
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| nominations in public, if there are no objections.
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| I would like to have that transparent to everyone.
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| Nominations should contain the name and a short paragraph
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| why it is a good candidate. We also have to decide,
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| how many members the PSC should have.
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| It is worth reading
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| - http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
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| (they are very successful, and the document applies much
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| to the GRASS project culture)
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| - http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-1/
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| (MS RFC 1: Technical Steering Committee Guidelines)
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| apparently 7 members there.
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| - http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2006-February/thread.html#7881
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| (GDAL PSC to be formed)
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| - http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-10/
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| (MS RFC 10: Joining the Open Source Geospatial Foundation)
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| Related:
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| - https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9682788&forum_id=475
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| (Community MapBuilder PMC membership nomination)
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| - https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9673493&forum_id=475
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| (MapBuilder & Mapbender and the OSGeo Foundation)
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| In fact, there is lot of material to digest in these days..
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| Markus
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| </pre></small>
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| ==3rd Letter to GRASS Dev mailing list==
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| <small><pre>
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| Markus Neteler neteler at itc.it Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:10:25 +0200
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| On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 01:00:01PM +0100, Glynn Clements wrote:
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| > Alpha support in the current display architecture isn't going to
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| > happen (I reverted the last attempt to add it, and will do likewise in
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| > future).
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| ... this is why I really suggest to get interested in a project
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| steering committee [1], [2].
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| Instead of recursively reverted changes of other developers,
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| we should come up with a design discussion and then *vote* on it.
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| At least for such crucidal pieces of the code I would like to
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| see less anarchy and a more formal approach. This will render
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| development more transparent to everybody. The scope cannot be to
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| have two display management systems in parallel, one without
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| and one with alpha support.
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| Existing steering committees, to get inspired from:
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| Mapserver: http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-1
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| GDAL: http://www.gdal.org/rfc1_pmc.html
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| Mapbender: http://www.mapbender.org/index.php/Mapbender_PSC
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| ...
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| Please think about it!
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| Thanks
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| Markus
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| [1] http://grass.itc.it/pipermail/grass5/2006-February/021178.html
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| [2] http://grass.itc.it/pipermail/grass5/2006-April/022185.html
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| </pre></small>
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| Answers:
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| * http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2006-April/thread.html#22556
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| == Nominations 2006 ==
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| ''The comments were copied from the [http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?userPosts=y&user=449164&query=psc&sort=date related emails].''
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| # Brad Douglas (nominated by 11): for clone removal and code refactoring
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| # Cedric Shock (nominated by 11): various code contributions
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| # Dylan Beaudette (nominated by 4): deep commitment to community, publishes useful tips
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| # Glynn Clements (nominated by 1): for his vast knowledge of standards, practices and compatibility
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| # Hamish Bowman (nominated by 11): for documentation, integration, and various modules
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| # Helena Mitasova (nominated by 1): for the obvious
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| # Maciej Sieczka (nominated by 5):
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| # Markus Neteler (nominated by 14): for the obvious. :-)
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| # Michael Barton (nominated by 12): very responsive to comments and questions; various code contributions
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| # Paolo Zatelli (nominated by 1 ): no reason given
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| # Paul Kelly (nominated by 11): for PROJ and platform support
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| # Radim Blazek (nominated by 1): for his extensive GRASS work including vector and DBMS support
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| # Roger Bivand (nominated by 7): no reason given
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| # Venkatesh Raghavan (nominated by 9):
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| # Massimiliano Cannata (nominated by 1):
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| Declined (please reconsider =])
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| # Radim Blazek (nominated by 1): for his extensive GRASS work including vector and DBMS support
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| == Status September 2006 ==
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| '''The GRASS Project Steering Committee ([[PSC]])''' - officially formed 11th Sept. 2006.
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| * '''Michael Barton''' (michael barton * asu edu)
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| * '''Dylan Baudette''' (debeaudette * ucdavis edu)
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| * '''Hamish Bowman''' (hamish_nospam * yahoo com)
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| * '''Massimiliano Cannata''' (massimiliano cannata * supsi ch)
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| * '''Brad Douglas''' (rez * touchofmadness com)
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| * '''Paul Kelly''' (paul-grass stjohnspoint co uk)
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| * '''Helena Mitasova''' (hmitaso * unity ncsu edu)
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| * '''Scott Mitchell''' (smitch * mac com)
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| * '''Markus Neteler''' (neteler * osgeo org) (chair)
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| * '''Maciej Sieczka''' (tutey * o2 pl)
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| (see also [http://grass.osgeo.org/community/team.php GRASS team page])
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| Next step: Revise [http://grass.osgeo.org/programming6/rfc1_psc.html RFC1] (Request For Comment) for the GRASS community to consider
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| == Status November 2006 ==
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| A [http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc/ dedicated GRASS-PSC mailing list] has been created. It is open to the public.
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| == Status December 2006 ==
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| The [[PSC]] has a [[PSC Agenda]] (more there).
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| [[Category: PSC]]
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