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The topics proposed are:
The topics proposed are:


* GRASS on different events
* GRASS presence on different events
* Release 8.5
* Release 8.5
* New docs status
* New docs status
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* Mailing list removal? Question from Vicky in chat
* Mailing list removal? Question from Vicky in chat
* Decide on the Workspace topic and whether the solution suggested [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/discussions/5916#discussioncomment-14045240 here] can be implemented. This would help to finalize and merge this [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3113 PR].
* Decide on the Workspace topic and whether the solution suggested [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/discussions/5916#discussioncomment-14045240 here] can be implemented. This would help to finalize and merge this [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3113 PR].
* Discussion on the [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/discussions/5909 workflow proposal]. Maybe we need some kind of File Browser pane?
* Discussion on the [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/discussions/5909 workflow proposal]. Perhaps we need a File Browser pane?
 
== Minutes ==
 
* GRASS presence on different events
** FOSS4G NA (Nov 3-5)
*** Workshop: GRASS Addon Development with Python, Corey & Caitlin
*** Talk: GRASS Meets Longest Flow Paths, Shortest Compute Times, Huidae
*** Talk: State of GRASS, Corey
** FOSS4G 2025 NZ:
*** Alen and Luca will attend and present the state of GRASS talk (Corey as co-author as he wrote the original abstract)
** FOSS4G.be: Moritz will present a state of GRASS talk
* GRASS 8.5 Release postponed to fall
** Waiting for JSON stuff from GSoC which needs to be reviewed before release
** Fix r.mapcalc issues regarding parallelization
** Mac binaries: There's an issue with code signing. Needs to be solved before the release.
** Release scripts are in addons, and they run in a Docker image
** Jupyter notebook integration into GUI - We discussed the possibility of having it included in 8.5. Some things need to be defined/solved first:
*** Where to start the Jupyter server
*** Where to store the notebooks: current working directory, let users choose, outside projects, within mapsets, provide a good default?
*** What happens when users do not have the dependencies installed?
*** it should work in Windows (both OSGeo4W and standalone installer)
** FHS should be ready for 8.6
* New docs:
** They are up and running, but there's still something missing on the automatic upload part.
** There’s the question of whether we need to have docs updated all the time or only when we release. In that sense, this is not a blocker for the release, but a nice-to-have.
** For this release, we do not remove the HTML files, which are mostly used locally in the GUI or when called with g.manual from the terminal.
** Addon docs with new format: they work online
* GSoC:
** The student and mentors are working hard on adding JSON output to C tools
** They are obsoleting -g flag and moving to format option
** More clean-up should be done before GRASS 9 + python tools
* CMake:
** We need 3 steps: FHS ([https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/5630 PR WIP]), GUI (Nicklas has a follow-up PR, but will need help with this; this PR?), extensions (nothing done so far)
** MSVC binaries are built fine, but they don’t work out of the box because of missing environment variables; Can make them work by manually setting environment variables though; g.gui fails with Python exceptions
* Conversation with Vicky:
** We need to understand what they want to remove; grass-user and grass-dev archives must not be removed, and neither must other list archives. Anna sends an email to Vicky.
* Workspace discussion:
** We agreed on having them within mapsets, but being asked if we want to save them or not - the opposite view is to save them automatically with a timer or so
* Remove the lock to delete maps in different mapsets from the GUI - check if this is independent from the owners of mapsets

Revision as of 14:06, 10 August 2025

Participants

  • Anna Petrasova
  • Helmut Kudrnovsky
  • Huidae Cho
  • Linda Karlovska
  • Nicklas Larsson
  • Paulo van Breugel
  • Vaclav Petras
  • Veronica Andreo

Agenda

The topics proposed are:

  • GRASS presence on different events
  • Release 8.5
  • New docs status
  • Website rebranding status
  • Mailing list removal? Question from Vicky in chat
  • Decide on the Workspace topic and whether the solution suggested here can be implemented. This would help to finalize and merge this PR.
  • Discussion on the workflow proposal. Perhaps we need a File Browser pane?

Minutes

  • GRASS presence on different events
    • FOSS4G NA (Nov 3-5)
      • Workshop: GRASS Addon Development with Python, Corey & Caitlin
      • Talk: GRASS Meets Longest Flow Paths, Shortest Compute Times, Huidae
      • Talk: State of GRASS, Corey
    • FOSS4G 2025 NZ:
      • Alen and Luca will attend and present the state of GRASS talk (Corey as co-author as he wrote the original abstract)
    • FOSS4G.be: Moritz will present a state of GRASS talk
  • GRASS 8.5 Release postponed to fall
    • Waiting for JSON stuff from GSoC which needs to be reviewed before release
    • Fix r.mapcalc issues regarding parallelization
    • Mac binaries: There's an issue with code signing. Needs to be solved before the release.
    • Release scripts are in addons, and they run in a Docker image
    • Jupyter notebook integration into GUI - We discussed the possibility of having it included in 8.5. Some things need to be defined/solved first:
      • Where to start the Jupyter server
      • Where to store the notebooks: current working directory, let users choose, outside projects, within mapsets, provide a good default?
      • What happens when users do not have the dependencies installed?
      • it should work in Windows (both OSGeo4W and standalone installer)
    • FHS should be ready for 8.6
  • New docs:
    • They are up and running, but there's still something missing on the automatic upload part.
    • There’s the question of whether we need to have docs updated all the time or only when we release. In that sense, this is not a blocker for the release, but a nice-to-have.
    • For this release, we do not remove the HTML files, which are mostly used locally in the GUI or when called with g.manual from the terminal.
    • Addon docs with new format: they work online
  • GSoC:
    • The student and mentors are working hard on adding JSON output to C tools
    • They are obsoleting -g flag and moving to format option
    • More clean-up should be done before GRASS 9 + python tools
  • CMake:
    • We need 3 steps: FHS (PR WIP), GUI (Nicklas has a follow-up PR, but will need help with this; this PR?), extensions (nothing done so far)
    • MSVC binaries are built fine, but they don’t work out of the box because of missing environment variables; Can make them work by manually setting environment variables though; g.gui fails with Python exceptions
  • Conversation with Vicky:
    • We need to understand what they want to remove; grass-user and grass-dev archives must not be removed, and neither must other list archives. Anna sends an email to Vicky.
  • Workspace discussion:
    • We agreed on having them within mapsets, but being asked if we want to save them or not - the opposite view is to save them automatically with a timer or so
  • Remove the lock to delete maps in different mapsets from the GUI - check if this is independent from the owners of mapsets