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Hi all!
Hi all!


That rather radical ideas I present here are rather for future, at least for GRASS 8, but I'd like present it now for long-term reflection.
That rather radical ideas I present here are rather for future, at least for GRASS 8,
but I'd like present it now for long-term reflection.


Probably all notice that for over two years there is big increase in add-on repository (including me). There are modules of different quality: from fully GRASS toolsets, to shell or python scripts, from  actively developed tools to abandoned, from all-purpose tools to very specialized etc. I also think that that activity will be grown due to substitute shell script by python
Probably all notice that for over two years there is big increase in add-on repository
(including me). There are modules of different quality: from fully GRASS toolsets,
to shell or python scripts, from  actively developed tools to abandoned,
from all-purpose tools to very specialized etc. I also think that that activity
will be grown due to substitute shell script by python


Similar situation is in main GRASS branch: there are modules for all like conversion tools, interpolation methods, georeferencing etc, and very specialized modules for very limited group of users (like wild fire), there are also some modules out of date.
Similar situation is in main GRASS branch: there are modules for all like conversion tools,
interpolation methods, georeferencing etc, and very specialized modules for very limited
group of users (like wild fire), there are also some modules out of date.


I'm not enthusiastic about moving new modules into main branch. Almost every module has different coding style and it will lasting in future that GRASS would be difficult to maintain. On the other hand some people complains that some interesting modules are only available as add-ons (I assume for some reasons they cannot install it)
I'm not enthusiastic about moving new modules into main branch. Almost every module has
different coding style and it will lasting in future that GRASS would be difficult to maintain.
On the other hand some people complains that some interesting modules are only available as
add-ons (I assume for some reasons they cannot install it)


So my suggestion is to rearrange future GRASS form two layers (main branch/add-on) into three layers architecture:
So my suggestion is to rearrange future GRASS form two layers (main branch/add-on) into
three layers architecture:


1) GRASS core layer: much limited limited than now, only GIS environment and basic, all-puropse tools, slow changes, great stability
1) GRASS core layer: much limited limited than now, only GIS environment and basic,
2) GRASS toolset layer: oficcial GRASS thematic tools and toolsets (like terrain analysis, hydrological analysis, photo-interpretation, landscape analysis etc,) every toolset with its maintainer, rapid development, new ready to use tools after quality control may appear here, also some of current main branch tool shall be moved to that layer
all-puropse tools, slow changes, great stability
3) GRASS community layer:  everything else like experimental, actively development new tools, that what do not pass quality control, simple scripts, etc....
2) GRASS toolset layer: oficcial GRASS thematic tools and toolsets (like terrain analysis,
hydrological analysis, photo-interpretation, landscape analysis etc,) every toolset with its
maintainer, rapid development, new ready to use tools after quality control may appear here,
also some of current main branch tool shall be moved to that layer
3) GRASS community layer:  everything else like experimental, actively development new tools,
that what do not pass quality control, simple scripts, etc....


What benefits:
What benefits:
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for users: faster access to new tools.
for users: faster access to new tools.
There is no doubt that new tools are faster developed (less risk) than GRASS core
There is no doubt that new tools are faster developed (less risk) than GRASS core
Binaries with toolsets could be maintained as separate apt/urpmi/pacman/yum/exe etc packages, so it may appear in linux repository separetly form GRASS core.
Binaries with toolsets could be maintained as separate apt/urpmi/pacman/yum/exe etc packages,
so it may appear in linux repository separetly form GRASS core.


There is only loose ideas. Most of them are of course taken from R (core/toolsets/rest of packages; separate core and package development) but I think it is worth of some discuss ...
There is only loose ideas. Most of them are of course taken from R (core/toolsets/rest of packages;
separate core and package development) but I think it is worth of some discuss ...


regards
regards

Revision as of 19:31, 9 May 2010

See original post by Jarosław Jasiewicz

Hi all!

That rather radical ideas I present here are rather for future, at least for GRASS 8,
but I'd like present it now for long-term reflection.

Probably all notice that for over two years there is big increase in add-on repository
(including me). There are modules of different quality: from fully GRASS toolsets,
to shell or python scripts, from  actively developed tools to abandoned,
from all-purpose tools to very specialized etc. I also think that that activity
will be grown due to substitute shell script by python

Similar situation is in main GRASS branch: there are modules for all like conversion tools,
interpolation methods, georeferencing etc, and very specialized modules for very limited
group of users (like wild fire), there are also some modules out of date.

I'm not enthusiastic about moving new modules into main branch. Almost every module has
different coding style and it will lasting in future that GRASS would be difficult to maintain.
On the other hand some people complains that some interesting modules are only available as
add-ons (I assume for some reasons they cannot install it)

So my suggestion is to rearrange future GRASS form two layers (main branch/add-on) into
three layers architecture:

1) GRASS core layer: much limited limited than now, only GIS environment and basic,
all-puropse tools, slow changes, great stability
2) GRASS toolset layer: oficcial GRASS thematic tools and toolsets (like terrain analysis,
hydrological analysis, photo-interpretation, landscape analysis etc,) every toolset with its
maintainer, rapid development, new ready to use tools after quality control may appear here,
also some of current main branch tool shall be moved to that layer
3) GRASS community layer:  everything else like experimental, actively development new tools,
that what do not pass quality control, simple scripts, etc....

What benefits:
for developers and contributors: much clear situation and better publication path.
Toolset layer should be much more open for new tools than current GRASS main branch

for users: faster access to new tools.
There is no doubt that new tools are faster developed (less risk) than GRASS core
Binaries with toolsets could be maintained as separate apt/urpmi/pacman/yum/exe etc packages,
so it may appear in linux repository separetly form GRASS core.

There is only loose ideas. Most of them are of course taken from R (core/toolsets/rest of packages;
separate core and package development) but I think it is worth of some discuss ...

regards
Jarek