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* New PSC members welcoming!
* New PSC members welcoming!
* PSC debriefing:
* PSC debriefing:
** For the next elections, we all agree that we should ''remove the reflection period'' and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provided their statements.
** For the next elections, we all agree that we should ''remove the reflection period'' and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provide their statements.
** Anna will update pictures on the website, PSC list on the wiki were already updated.
** {{done}} AP will update pictures on the website, the PSC list on the wiki was already updated.
** Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections
** Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections


* Release 8.4.1 status:
* Release 8.4.1 status:
** see https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A8.4.1
** see https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A8.4.1
** get the open issues to a minimum, i.e., review, merge, close, or move to 8.4.2 or 8.5
** '''Action:''' All, get the open issues to a minimum, i.e., review, merge, close, or move to 8.4.2 or 8.5
** db.in.ogr changes to docs about setting autodetect to import csv files → MB will provide the sentence to modify
** db.in.ogr changes to docs about setting autodetect to import csv files → {{done}} MB will provide the sentence to modify (https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/4674)
** HC open PRs
** HC open PRs
** r.univar bug #4284
** r.univar bug [https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/4284 #4284] and [[https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/4443 #4443]]
** MN proposes to sit together with VP while doing the release and check if the procedure is in good shape (as time permits)
** '''Action:''' MN proposes to sit together with VP while doing the release and check if the procedure is in good shape (as time permits)
*** seems not to be feasible? MN will go ahead on his own


* Milestones vs backport labels:
* Milestones vs backport labels:
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* Redbubble:  
* Redbubble:  
** Still not open to the public, we need to contact support and ask what’s happening (https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/GRASS-Open-Source-GIS-von-lawlessdesign/)
** Still not open to the public.
** we are signed up there with grass-dev account (?)
** '''Action:''' VP (?) will contact support and ask what’s happening.  
** someone is using GRASS logo already, see: https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/GRASS-Open-Source-GIS-by-lawlessdesign/68521086.0S66D
** We are signed up there with grass.devteam account
** someone is using GRASS logo already, see: https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/GRASS-Open-Source-GIS-by-lawlessdesign/68521086.0S66D (that was also part of the original motivation to create the shop)


* Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
* Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
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** Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
** Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
** We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
** We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
** LK suggests to create a list of industry partners
** '''Action:''' LK suggests to create a list of industry partners. Volunteers??
** AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application
** '''Action:''' AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application


* GSoC  
* GSoC 2025
** Google sent money for mentors, OSGeo asked mentors what they we wanted to do
** Google sent money for mentors, OSGeo asked mentors what they we wanted to do
** GRASS mentor’s money —> goes to GRASS project but sits with OSGeo
** GRASS mentor’s money —> goes to GRASS project but sits with OSGeo
** Ideas: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GSoC_Ideas_2025


* Upcoming events:
* Upcoming events:
** AGU: talks accepted
** {{done}} AGU: talks accepted
** FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
** {{done}} FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
** FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. Paulo will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
** FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. '''Action:''' PVB will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
** FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/
** {{done}} FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/


* Documentation - moving to md
* Documentation - moving to md
** Merge: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3849
** {{done}} Merge: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3849
** Finish & merge docs: script to convert HTML manual pages to markdown #4620
** Finish & merge docs: script to convert HTML manual pages to markdown #4620
** Convert Addons documentation to Markdown → MN has fixed HTML and tested, 95% ready
** Convert Addons documentation to Markdown → MN has fixed HTML and tested, 95% ready
** Remove HTML-related rules from the build system and HTML files
** {{done}} Remove HTML-related rules from the build system and HTML files
** Waiting for VP and MN review to merge 3849 and move on
** '''Action:''' Waiting for VP and MN review to merge 3849 and move on
** Do we create md docs already for new tools?? Yes
** Do we create md docs already for new tools?? Yes
** How to save the history of html files once they are removed?  
** {{done}} How to save the history of html files once they are removed?  
*** https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/4620#issuecomment-2465213180
*** https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/4620#issuecomment-2465213180


* Publer:
* Publer:
** Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - Motion passed
** Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - '''Motion passed'''
** Action point: contact OSGeo about the money
** '''Action:''' VP will contact OSGeo about the money
** VA will ping Paulo -> create a shared doc
** '''Action:''' VA will ping PVB and create a shared doc to track posts, draft ideas, etc.


* Budget:  
* Budget:  
** We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot  
** We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot  
** VA created the calendar event, VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s  
*** {{done}} VA creates the calendar event  
** Deadline to submit it is Dec 23rd (Vero’s bday btw :))
** '''Action:''' VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s  
** Deadline to submit is Dec 23, 2024
*** was it submitted to the board?


* Discourse:
* Discourse:
** AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
** '''Action:''' AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
** We all agree to move grass-user and grass-psc to discourse too
** We all agree to move grass-user and to discourse too
*** Open ticket: Migrate grass-user mailing list to discourse: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3320
*** grass-psc request todo
** In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)
** In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)


*RFC about standards  
* RFC about standards  
** Nicklas sends out the motion
** {{done}} NL sends out the motion
 


* Note for Roger:
** MN has drafted a posting, reviewed by VA and AP
*** published {{done}}


[[Category:PSC]]
[[Category:PSC]]

Latest revision as of 14:18, 10 February 2025

Participants

  • Anna Petrasova
  • Helena Mitasova
  • Helmut Kudrnovsky
  • Huidae Cho
  • Linda Karlovska
  • Markus Neteler
  • Martin Landa
  • Michael Barton
  • Nicklas Larsson
  • Paulo van Breugel
  • Vaclav Petras
  • Vero Andreo

Agenda

The proposed topics to be discussed are:

Minutes

  • New PSC members welcoming!
  • PSC debriefing:
    • For the next elections, we all agree that we should remove the reflection period and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provide their statements.
    • √ AP will update pictures on the website, the PSC list on the wiki was already updated.
    • Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections
  • Milestones vs backport labels:
    • Milestone: We want to have it in the given version
    • Backport label: Needs to be backported regardless of the milestone (milestone may target micro release or future release)
  • Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
    • GDAL, GeoPandas, and Numpy use it
    • Industry partners need an invoice, OSGeo is not willing to handle that
    • NumFocus can apply to US funding
    • Deadline for application?
    • Cost: 15% from donations
    • Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
    • We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
    • Action: LK suggests to create a list of industry partners. Volunteers??
    • Action: AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application
  • Upcoming events:
    • √ AGU: talks accepted
    • √ FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
    • FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. Action: PVB will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
    • √ FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/
  • Documentation - moving to md
    • √ Merge: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3849
    • Finish & merge docs: script to convert HTML manual pages to markdown #4620
    • Convert Addons documentation to Markdown → MN has fixed HTML and tested, 95% ready
    • √ Remove HTML-related rules from the build system and HTML files
    • Action: Waiting for VP and MN review to merge 3849 and move on
    • Do we create md docs already for new tools?? Yes
    • √ How to save the history of html files once they are removed?
  • Publer:
    • Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - Motion passed
    • Action: VP will contact OSGeo about the money
    • Action: VA will ping PVB and create a shared doc to track posts, draft ideas, etc.
  • Budget:
    • We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot
      • √ VA creates the calendar event
    • Action: VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s
    • Deadline to submit is Dec 23, 2024
      • was it submitted to the board?
  • Discourse:
    • Action: AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
    • We all agree to move grass-user and to discourse too
    • In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)
  • RFC about standards
    • √ NL sends out the motion
  • Note for Roger:
    • MN has drafted a posting, reviewed by VA and AP
      • published √
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