PSC Meeting 2024-11-08

Participants

• Anna Petrasova
• Helena Mitasova
• Helmut Kudrnovsky
• Huidae Cho
• Linda Karlovska
• Markus Neteler
• Martin Landa
• Michael Barton
• Nicklas Larsson
• Paulo van Breugel
• Vaclav Petras
• Vero Andreo

Agenda

The proposed topics to be discussed are:

• Welcome new PSC members! :)
• PSC Election 2024 debriefing
• Procedure for switching from old to new PSC
  • update https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PSC#Members
  • update https://grass.osgeo.org/about/team/, we need portrait photos
• Release 8.4.1 (Anticipated release date was September 18 - GitHub Milestones)
• Redbubble access and restart of the setup procedure
• Action points from the previous meeting: PSC_Meeting_2024-08-09
  • Documentation of GitHub teams
  • RFCs about releases
• New RFC about C/C++ standards
• NumFOCUS
• Upcoming events:
  • AGU
  • FOSS4G Brazil:
    • Please check GRASS slide for OSGeo AGM
  • Anyone planning on attending FOSDEM (1+2 Feb 2025) or FOSS Backstage (10-11 Mar 2025)?
• Documentation updates
• Publer Business subscription?
• Budget 2025:
  • https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2024-October/013570.html
• News post for GRASS website
• Discourse transition - close grass-dev mailing list
• Labels or projects for "funding needed", "funded work", "funded by..." etc. (OSGeo/gdal, OSGeo/PROJ)
• Consider writing a laudation for Roger Bivand

Minutes

• New PSC members welcoming!

• PSC debriefing:
  • For the next elections, we all agree that we should remove the reflection period and start immediately with the voting period after candidates provide their statements.
  • √ AP will update pictures on the website, the PSC list on the wiki was already updated.
  • Schedule a meeting for all (new and old) members after the next elections

• Release 8.4.1 status:
  • see https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A8.4.1
  • Action: All, get the open issues to a minimum, i.e., review, merge, close, or move to 8.4.2 or 8.5
  • db.in.ogr changes to docs about setting autodetect to import csv files → √ MB will provide the sentence to modify (https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/4674)
  • HC open PRs
  • r.univar bug #4284 and [#4443]
  • Action: MN proposes to sit together with VP while doing the release and check if the procedure is in good shape (as time permits)
    • seems not to be feasible? MN will go ahead on his own

• Milestones vs backport labels:
  • Milestone: We want to have it in the given version
  • Backport label: Needs to be backported regardless of the milestone (milestone may target micro release or future release)

• Redbubble:
  • Still not open to the public.
  • Action: VP (?) will contact support and ask what’s happening.
  • We are signed up there with grass.devteam account
  • someone is using GRASS logo already, see: https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/GRASS-Open-Source-GIS-by-lawlessdesign/68521086.0S66D (that was also part of the original motivation to create the shop)

• Numfocus (https://numfocus.org/):
  • GDAL, GeoPandas, and Numpy use it
  • Industry partners need an invoice, OSGeo is not willing to handle that
  • NumFocus can apply to US funding
  • Deadline for application?
  • Cost: 15% from donations
  • Is there a fee/base cost to pay? Apparently not
  • We would keep opencollective open for donations and NumFocus for industry because of the invoices
  • Action: LK suggests to create a list of industry partners. Volunteers??
  • Action: AP and VP will fill out the application, we need at least 5 people in the application

• GSoC 2025
  • Google sent money for mentors, OSGeo asked mentors what they we wanted to do
  • GRASS mentor’s money —> goes to GRASS project but sits with OSGeo
  • Ideas: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GSoC_Ideas_2025

• Upcoming events:
  • √ AGU: talks accepted
  • √ FOSS4G Brazil: GRASS talk and workshop accepted + keynote
  • FOSDEM: Paulo potentially, willing to present something about GRASS. Action: PVB will inform the others if he will go. Deadline for abstracts is Dec 1st
  • √ FOSS4G Asia: MN will deliver a keynote. See: https://talks.geoinfo-lab.org/foss4g-asia-2024/talk/KYNT8Z/

• Documentation - moving to md
  • √ Merge: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/3849
  • Finish & merge docs: script to convert HTML manual pages to markdown #4620
  • Convert Addons documentation to Markdown → MN has fixed HTML and tested, 95% ready
  • √ Remove HTML-related rules from the build system and HTML files
  • Action: Waiting for VP and MN review to merge 3849 and move on
  • Do we create md docs already for new tools?? Yes
  • √ How to save the history of html files once they are removed?
    • https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/4620#issuecomment-2465213180

• Publer:
  • Motion: pay business plan for one year 3 accounts and test - Motion passed
  • Action: VP will contact OSGeo about the money
  • Action: VA will ping PVB and create a shared doc to track posts, draft ideas, etc.

• Budget:
  • We need a meeting for this topic only: Nov 22, PSC meeting time slot
    • √ VA creates the calendar event
  • Action: VP will draft a new budget based on 2024’s
  • Deadline to submit is Dec 23, 2024
    • was it submitted to the board?

• Discourse:
  • Action: AP will send an email requesting the de-activation of the grass-dev mailing list
  • We all agree to move grass-user and to discourse too
    • Open ticket: Migrate grass-user mailing list to discourse: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3320
    • grass-psc request todo
  • In a next step, we delete grass-web (say: we put it into archive mode and remove URL from grass.osgeo.org and elsewhere, pointing to discourse instead)

• RFC about standards
  • √ NL sends out the motion

• Note for Roger:
  • MN has drafted a posting, reviewed by VA and AP
    • published √